Tuesday, 6 August 2013

MARGARET GEORGINA COUTTS my Great Grandmother ( my fathers mothers mother )

  
                                        FATHER              MOTHER
                                        Charles Coutts     Jean Ley
                                           1780-1841         1786 - ?
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MOTHER                                   FARTHER
Mary Ann Farquharson               Charles Coutts
1833-1912                                 1810-1885

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MOTHER                                                                                                        FATHER 
Mary Coutts nee Wilson                                                                                 John Wilson
Born21.12.1854                                                                                                1850
(servant on Farm Estate)





Margaret Georgina Coutts
Born 7.12.1874
Aberdeenshire Scotland
Mother Mary Coutts Servant
Born 21.12.1854  (illegitimate)    

MARRIAGES
                                                         CHILDREN
1. William Charles Murrell
     Born 1873 ish                              1. Daisy Eugene Murrell          1896-1979
     Married  1896                             2. Margaret Georgina Murrell  1897-189
                                                       3. William Charles Murrell       1899-1970



                                                         CHILDREN
 2.John Middleton Lisle 
     Born 1877                                   1. Jack Lisle (John Nathan)     1901- 1982
     Married 1913                              2. Bob Lisle (Robert)              1904-
                                                       3. Barbara Lisle                       1907-
                                                       4.Pat Lisle (Mary!)                  1911 -

                                                          CHILDREN
3. Tommy Brown                            1.. Sarah Brown                       1913-1998
    Married  1917                              2 .Jess y Brown                       1916-


1.WILLIAM CHARLES MURRELL
The hand down Family history said tha William Charles Murrell was a French man from La Have who went to Cambridge and rowed for Cambridge

HOWEVER

On her marriage certificate she gave her uncle Charles Coutts Innkeeper as her Father he ran a pub where she worked. William Charles Murrell her first Husband was a wine merchant in the 1891 census there is a William Murrey aged 19 commercial Clerk born in Bethnal Green!!!!!!! this william had two sister names Daisy and Eugenie

 2. JOHN MIDDLETON LISLE

Family hearsay said that John Lisle came from Scotland was a sea man at 14 and joined the sea man's union became a coxman and in later life was a councilor

Records show he was born in Sunderland in 1877 to Robert & Barbara Lisle he gives his occupation as driller for boilermaker no records of him being a councilor

From Melanie O'Brien (Yates)
Margaret Georgina Coutts was the illigetimate daughter of Mary Coutts and John Wilson. John Wilson was the son of an Earl in Scotland for whom Mary Coutts cleaned. When Mary fell pregnant with Margaret the family paid her off and Margaret was born in 1874.
William Charles Murrell was born in La Harve France about 1876. His family were exiled Huguenots, who returned to France shortly before the birth of their children so they would be born on French soil. 
William was a wine merchant who went to Cambridge University and possibly rowed as a Cambridge Blue. He was expelled from the University as apparently had a liking for booze, betting and women. His expulsion is reported to have come about when a woman was found in his rooms. He met Margaret Coutts while selling wine to the pub where she worked. They married in 1896 but split before 1901 when Margaret gave birth to her first son with John Lisle. She was never divorced but had been separated from William for seven years, so was deemed free to remarry, although she claimed an army pension for each of her three husbands.
Margaret went on to live with and then marry John Lisle, while William eloped to Spain with either an English or Spanish girlfriend and went on to have twin girls with her. William's father is reported to have built a shrine/monument/church in the South of England to atone for his son's sins. This may be in Surrey. 

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